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Do know what it takes to perform at your best every single day? Peter Jensen is leadership coach, bio-hacking expert and radio personality. There are a number of strategies that each of us can implement in our daily lives in order to become the best version of ourselves. For example, biohacking strategies such as utilizing neuro frenquencies can be used to improve various brain functions such as mood, focus and energy. As Peter Jensen states during the interview: “Biohacking is part of self improvement, it is taking control of your own biological systems of your neurology, your digestive system, etc.”

Learning how to better manage our bodies both physically and mentally can help many of us achieve greater success in many different areas of our lives. In this episode, Hala Taha and our guest Peter Jensen discuss what biohacking is and share tips on how it can be used to help people perform at their personal best.

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What we are yapping about in this episode:

  • Understanding emotional intelligence  [01:31]
  • Peter Jensen’s background story  [03:57]
  • Biohacking and self improvement [20:58]
  • Thinking of purpose as a lifestyle rather than a goal  [46:26]
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Hala Taha:00:00Hey Peter. Thanks for joining all the way from Spain. Great to have you on the show.Peter Jensen:00:14Oh, it's an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.Hala Taha:00:19So you work with clients on a lot of different areas from biohacking to emotional intelligence, to leadership, to Mlm coaching, which stands for a multilevel marketing, right?Peter Jensen:00:30Yeah, that's correct.Hala Taha:00:32Um, what's the common theme in all of these elements? How do you link them in your coaching,Peter Jensen:00:36Right. That it's all actually about one simple thing. It said leading through emotional intelligence, um, is he biohacking is being able to take your control over your biological systems, right? That includes your mind, your, you're your urology and a MLMs. Well, these are companies that are very social. They do a lot of social selling. And one of the thingsthat's very important for them is to develop leaderswithin them. And everything has to be done through emotional intelligence. Because before, before I'm talking about before the two thousands leadership was not really about other people, was alot about the person who's leading right now we're changing things. Leadership has to have empathy in order for it to be transforming. That's that's why it's so the one link there is leading through emotional intelligence.Hala Taha:01:31Yeah. and and emotional intelligence is such a hot topic. I think we'll touch on it later in the interview if we have time. So let's move on to some of these topics. You referenced a very old adage and our recent Forbes article, in fact, this quote has so much history in iterations that I couldn't find the author behind it. I'm sure most of our listeners out there have heard a version of it and it goes like this. Watch your thoughts. They become your words. Watch your words. They become your actions. Watch your actions. They become your habits. Watch your habits. They become your character. Watch your character for it becomes your destiny. So I'd like you to talk about our
thoughts. Could you elaborate on why our thoughtsare so powerful and why you've spent a large portion of your life perfecting the way that you think?Peter Jensen:02:17Well, for starters, I don't think we're ever going to get to perfection the way we think thoughts of very complex. So we have between 60 and 90,000 thoughts per day now because of the way that, uh, that the species has evolved. This is important and it's important that we always start analyzing things around us. And it's really about 80% of these thoughts are negative. So we ended up, they're negative because we analyze things around us expecting the worst because we're expecting the line to come from behind. We are expecting a collapse of a, of land who just probably end up in a,in a sink hole or something, Ya know, uh, expecting a baby to cry so he can go and save it or feed it, things like this. So we are always expecting this danger, this negativity. And of course now we don't have all those dangers, but we still have those thoughts and we can't really control them. So thoughts are powerful, but they're, they're powerful, specially. You are able to control them and direct them, point them in the right direction. That's the important thing right there. And the reason is because your thoughts do eventually become your destiny.Hala Taha:03:35Yeah. Um, so I think something that will really set the stage here is actually a very unfortunate accident that happened to you at a gym where you injured your head and you literally needed to control your thoughts to ensure your future. Could you just walk our listeners through that tough time?Tell us how that experience changed you as a person and why it helps you appreciate your thoughts.Peter Jensen:03:57So this was in 2005 I was in England living in London at the time and the cable crossover machine fell on my head. Now if you know how withgym is set up, you have mirrors everywhere. So thetrauma of actually seeing this happened to you is much worse than the actual blow itself. But I saw the machine falling and I was helpless. It landed on my head, it cracked my skull, it broke my l two. Andin that moment I just thought, oh, how am I going to survive this? And the moment I asked that one
question, things changed the moment to ask that question automatically. Really very quickly it, the answer was, we have to stay awake. How do I stay awake? Well, you need to do mathematical calculations. So I don't know if my mathematical calculations were accurate or not. They were a stroke of genius or a stroke of, you know, randomness we don't know.Peter Jensen:05:03But I started messing around with the Pascal triangle and fever and Nachi sequence and all these things in my head and that kept me awake and it kept me away. But I kept on thinking other things, you know, and one of the things I thought is, how am I going to use this later? Because I started getting bored of my numbers and it was just, am I going to use this later? How, how can I help people? I, my life has always been since I was a little kid about helping others, about the transforming the world. But at that moment it's sortof just really hit home. And when I started asking myself, how can I use this and then how can they use this to help others?Peter Jensen:05:46Things changed. My business changed, my life, changed. The doctors eventually told me that I wasn't ever going to walk again, at least not the same and it was never going to read and write again. But thanks to my thought processes and of course biohacking, I was able to go from that to climbing Mt. Keely climbing, a Montblanc surfing again, skiing again, writing books and reading 1,500 words per minute. Wow. So I remember sitting there with the, with the doctors and my mother was next to me. And uh, when the doctors gave us the news, I said, I understand that this is what you experience in, in your, your day to day when situations like this. But if you don't mind, I'm going to choose my own reality. And I did. Yeah. SoHala Taha:06:41in relation to that, you talk a lot about change and how you must take control of your thoughts to change. So how did you make all these positive changes? What was it that you did to control your thoughts?Peter Jensen:06:55I asked myself questions and I asked it in the right way. It's a simple as that. The only way to direct your thoughts is through questions. Well, I'll give you a, an example. You see somebody and you
don't remember the name. Now you might have company. And that's really embarrassing because you don't remember that person's name. You know where you'd know them from. You've, you remember the conversation and everything. But in your head you ask yourself one question, it's, Oh, what's her name? So you're not able to introduce her to your friend and you say, Hey Alice, this is uh,and of course they noticed this, right? But we still try to pretend that they're not noticing. So we're still asking ourselves this question cause now we'reunder pressure. And they might start a conversation and you don't even listen. It's, you're, you're completely in your head trying to think, whoa, what's this person's name?Peter Jensen:07:55What's her name? And, um, and then that person leaves you keep on having a conversation with yourfriend and an hour later, a day later, you all of a sudden remember that person's name as it happened to you. Yeah. So the problem here is that you ask yourself the question, so you stopped focusing on the conversation that was occurring right in that minute. And because you asked yourself that question, your brains started focusing its power in the process of answering it. Now you might have forgotten about the situation, but it's still working its magic in the background. It's still occupying mental real estate and then all the sudden, oh, I remember her name and then you stop thinking about it. The same thing happens with songs and stuff like that. So it's really good to, if that kind of thing happens to you, it's really good just to say, oh I'm really sorry I even know where I know you're from.Peter Jensen:09:01I know the conversations we've had and I'm just really, really struggling to remember your name and I'll probably ask you five times in the future what it is. So I hope you can accept that. And what's your name? Because then it doesn't occupy that real estate. Then you can use your mind for other things. But the same thing happens when youask yourself a question when something happens toyou. So let's say something negative happens. Know, I dunno, it could be anything, just just, just put in your head like in my case it was that accident. So when, think of a time when something bad happened and the questions you asked yourself, if you asked yourself the question, why
me? Your subconscious mind is going to try to answer that question and it's usually going to justify why you. So it's usually going to be because you're worthless because you're not good enough and all those fears come into play. But if instead of that you ask yourself a question, how can I learn from this? Or how can I use this? Or how can this empower me? Then the same process will be used to find the answers of how you can use this productively.Hala Taha:10:13Got It. So it's really about getting a clear head and a previous guests that we've had. David Allen on the show talks about this a lot. He also mentions to kind of close these open loops at gone and your head, you've got to write everything down. So how do you feel about writing down, um, anything that'sgoing on in your life, your projects, your tasks in order to just get them out of your head so you can focus?Peter Jensen:10:39I'm looking at three different Kanban boards right now. Yup. IHala Taha:10:45can you explain what a Kanban board is to our listeners? For those who might not know,Peter Jensen:10:49a Kanban board is, um, it's an agile tool. So it's what we call a pull system. It's a board, like a whiteboard with different, um, different Collins and different, what we call swim lanes. And now the collins, you just basically, in my case, I have a gets to do list I don't say to do because I'm alive. I get todo stuff and then a half my doing done. And then after that I just have defined it and measure, analyze, improve and control an update. And what Ido is I put post it notes of the things that I get to doand I make sure that my postit notes always traveled from left to right always. So every time I have an idea or something, I'll put it in my get to dobecause I want to get to do my ideas and I put them there.Peter Jensen:11:38And when I get around to have enough, um, when I have enough time to do them, I'll just put them on to doing it. I just do my stuff when I'm done. That's great. They go with it done at night. Everything thatgets done I put into that define and measure colon. And when there, I defined how I, well I define whatever happens there. I measured my results,
then I switched them up to the uh, adolescent improve one. And this is six sigma. Yeah. And then control and update, update. Because all my camp importance or put into one system, I personally useTrello, but you know, I put them into one system so that I know and my team knows what I'm doing, what I'm thinking and I'm very transparent about it.And leading through an agile process is kind of really cool and it's, it's really easy to do.Hala Taha:12:28Yeah. So staying on this topic, like I mentioned, David Allen talks about the concept of being present. And you previously mentioned an interesting statistic that we have 60 to 90,000 thoughts per day. 93% are repeated from the previous day. 93% will be repeated the following day. And all of these thoughts, out of all of these thoughts, 80% of our negative 50% our daydreams.And so if this is true, we spend very little time and the present. And so it's super important to know how to get focused and present and into a control and flow state. So what are your like hacks, like your concrete tips that we can do tomorrow to get into better focus?Peter Jensen:13:08Sorry, what'd you can do right now? Sure. Threes. Ifyou focus your attention on your breath, you become very present because considering there's past, present and future, when did you breathe in those times? You can only breathe in the now. It's as simple as that. My trick is to inhale quickly and exhale very slowly. So this is when I really needed to focus on the now and I need to do it right this very second. But I follow the Wim Hoff method of breathing. So there's different techniques that I'm happy to share, um, and I to actually you can find them. Um, on, on some of my Facebook lives, I do alot of Facebook lives about breathing and being present. And it's really very simple because it's a slower you breathe, the more centered you are in the now and the more centered you are in the now, the less chatter you're going to have in your mind to simple as that. You want to get clear, get them tonow you want to get into now breathe slowly. It is as simple as that. Just breathe slowly.Hala Taha:14:26Cool cool tip and you have a thought routine. Can you explain what a thought routine is and maybe some elements of a really good one?
Peter Jensen:14:35Okay, so first get present. What I have is I have a thinking chair. I have a chair over at my bay window and I use it for thinking. I don't use it for anything else. I don't even, I used to have a cup of coffee was, I was thinking, I don't even do that now.It's just for thinking. I don't write, I don't listen to anything. I don't watch anything. I just sit there andthink. So every time I do that, my mind focuses on my thoughts. After I think I, I, I shaped my thoughts. And the way I do it is I have a couch, which I just sit on or lay on and more route in changing my physiology to shape my thoughts. So Ieven thinking about my thoughts, and this is a unique human thing. Humans are the only creatures we can actually think about their own thoughts. And then I go out and I walk, I walk to stretch my thoughts. And that's very important because I want to think bigger. And I want to think better. I wanted to think more and I want to think before other people do it. And then I write it all downPeter Jensen:15:57and what I think can be action or actionable, I'll put it on my Kanban boards. It's simple as that. That's my routine that happens every single day, no matter what. I wake up at five in the morning and as soon as I'm out of bed and I do my little, um, youknow, the more spiritual routine in the morning, I go and do that. That's it.Hala Taha:16:19That's really interesting. So it's really about just taking the time to expand on your thoughts, to not just have an initial thought, write it down, have an initial thought, write it down. It's all about just like letting it sit there and stretching it out and stretching it out and just trying to get the most out of it. Right.Peter Jensen:16:38It is. And I find that the physical space, you do it in this very important as well. Because every time I look at that chair, I automatically start thinking, andwhen I have a challenge going through my head or you know, that's just presented it to me, I look at my chair and it's sort of the process already begins just by looking at that chair. So in the physicality helps.Hala Taha:17:03Yeah. Cool. Well my last question on this topic is really about being a free thinker. A lot of my listeners, including myself, you know, work a nine
to five, we work for the man. So is it possible to be a free thinker when you have a day job?Peter Jensen:17:23Uh, this is the beautiful thing about thinking. You're always free to think what you want. We were not living, well, at least not yet. And a total, uh, or Willian world. We're not in his novels, 1984. We don't have thought police. You can be a free thinker, but you need to free yourself. So you can do that. And, and this is a difficult thing. You need to understand that you need to have separate yourself from everybody else, meaning your thoughts could be thoughts that have been createdbecause of what your family has told you, what your friends had to have told you. You know your upbringing, your schooling system, you live in the country, you live in the culture, you live in, religiousbeliefs and so on. Now it's difficult to get objective with all these things happening and the way you free yourself from it is you look at the situation and a situation is just that.Peter Jensen:18:25When you put that in a very of, you're in a, I want to put this very clear for everybody. It's very simple. A situation is not a saint into being. It does not care if you're upset. It does not care if you scream at it, shout at it or anything. Free yourself from the situation. What you do is you look at it, you physically write down situation you're in, you put it in front of you, and then you just extract yourself from the equation as much as you can. It takes practice. It takes time, but once you learn how to free yourself from the situation that you need, store when and how to free yourself from fearand that I would recommend a book called the bookof a book of five rings, Bay Miyamoto Musashi, where he says that the way of the warrior is generally speaking, the wrestler acceptance of death.Peter Jensen:19:21I know this is a bit dark, but it is beautiful because this is one thing that unites humanity. If you were alive today, eventually you will not be. This is why we have to be present, but if you're able to confrontthis reality, you're able to confront one of the biggest fears. You'll have the fear of no longer existing. And when you do that, you freed yourself from those fears and you start realizing that fear is pretty much the only thing which gets smaller and smaller every time you get closer and closer to it
and the more you're exposed to it. Once you're freefrom the situations and you're free from fear, it can go ahead and be present and think and grow your thoughts, expand your thoughts and it's important to share your thoughts. It's very important to do that because your, your thoughts are going to be difficult to land unless you share them and somebody else comes in and gives you some feedback on it. You grew up,Hala Taha:20:29that's very powerful. So many takeaways, um, on this conversation of thoughts. But let's switch gearsa bit. I was poking around your website and I noticed you offer bio hacking services and this helps people take control of their biological systemsand optimize their life. The term biohacker has been around for about a decade and has become somewhat of a marketing buzzword that's slapped on everything. So what's your exact definition and how is it different than something like self improvement?Peter Jensen:20:58Well, in in my opinion, self improvement, um, no, biohacking is part of self improvement is that at theend of the day you were improving yourself. It is taking control of your own biological systems of your neurology, your digestive system, etc. We have many systems as a thing. And hiking is basically just having access to it where you normally don't. So there are tools for it, but generally speaking, biohacking is just taking responsibility of your own biology. That's it. And that is part of self improvement.Hala Taha:21:39Cool. So if I have this right, biohacking is just a crazy sounding name for the desire to be the absolute best version of yourself. And the main thing that separates a biohacker from the rest of the self improvement world is a systems thinking approach to their own biology.Peter Jensen:21:56Yup. That's pretty good one.Hala Taha:22:01Okay, good. So what's an example of a biohack?Peter Jensen:22:04Okay, so, uh, breathing, the breathing thing is, this is a good one. You know, the different techniques orbreathing, those are very basic. They're very simple. Uh, another one would be, for example, oneof the other ones I, Hey, I do is I, uh, I filter my
water. I always have two glasses of water before I do anything. So it's right next to my, my bed and I'lljust grab those two glasses water soon as I wake up. But those two glasses of water I've actually been the night the previous night have been infused with also.Peter Jensen:22:40So this purifies the water. It's alkalized and it's goodman. You know, it's a very small bio hack. It doesn'trequire a lot of stuff, but you know, it's just such a simple and you know, you can actually think of meditation and breathing techniques, asset biohack, and you can also look at things like, for example, just taking the right vitamins, the right nutrition. That's biohacking. It's a buzzword. Yes. Um, but if you do it in a way where it, no, no, doctors are really involved in this process unless you are like me and I actually have a whole bunch of doctors I talked to, I checked my blood all the time. I have MRI scans and everything just because I wanted to know that what I am doing is actually optimizing my biology and Matt in neurology. Hmm.Then you know, you don't really need doctors to do it. You just needed to do it responsibly.Hala Taha:23:40Cool. I'd love to, um, as we go on uncover of the things that you do to biohack yourself. Um, there's so many different aspects of biohacking. So for the purposes of this interview, I really want to focus on the brain. So brain hacking is essentially improving one or more brain functions, including memory, focus, mood, energy, and the list goes on. So can you give us your most effective brain hacks?Peter Jensen:24:07Okay. My most effective brain hacks, number one, I use frequencies. I developed my own by neuro frequencies. And, uh, I actually use a very interesting database that's out there, uh, which is, uh, which establishes Schumann's resonance. Schumann's resonance is basically the, the, the frequency of planet earth. So every single astral body has a frequency and it's dictated by its mass and its gravitational pool. And it's, um, in the case of bath, planet earth, the, uh, the magnetosphere and solar flares and so on. And I look at the Schumann's resonance everyday and I altered my frequencies so that when I put them on, I ground myself to exactly a frequency of the planet is in today. Now the US geological service has a database for this. It's a bit complicated to use it.
And uh, another at another institution to monitors itis the US Navy. So it's really scientific and it's really cool.Peter Jensen:25:14But mine is updated automatically. So all my frequencies are updated automatically. So every day I will be, uh, at Schumann's resonance want to have to start to doing my thinking and then I can change my frequency depending on what I want mybrain to be doing, what state I wanted to be. I reallywant to focus, I'll get a focus frequency that is based on, uh, that resonance. And if I want to set myself up to do some sports, I will have a sports frequency that helps me create the right mental attitude towards this sport that I'm doing.Hala Taha:25:55So like how do you get to the frequencies? That's something that you're controlling yourself or do youhave like some sort of tool that helps you do that?Peter Jensen:26:04So I have a software that, uh, that I created at one point when I was very bored. I'm a really big geek. Ihave to tell you that, you know, I like coding and stuff like that. I like a, I like doing the, my, my, my, my things. But I was really bored and I thought, I'm going to do this cause I know what the frequency is due to me, so I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this to another level. So I just created that piece of software myself and it works brilliant. And it's, it's worked since, uh, 2006, you know, that's the one ofthe, that's one of the ways I recovered from my, from my injuries. Wow. And uh, actually it's just really cool. It's a really cool piece of software that just creates what I needed to create for my brain. And then all I do is I put it onto my Dropbox and every time I just, I just created a thing where it just automatically updates it in my Dropbox and I'll listen to it from my Dropbox. So I know I'm always going to have my, my, uh, accurate frequencies and I'll put an earphone so I know it just be doing whatever I'm doing and plugged into my iPhone. And that's it.Hala Taha:27:16So it's just like sound waves or something that you're listening to and it changes your brain frequencies. I'm just trying to understand what it is.Oh, okay. Yep.Peter Jensen:27:23It's very simple. It's one side of the, of one of your phone. We'll have one frequency and the other one
we'll have another. And it's the difference of those two frequencies, which creates that beat that you really need to listen to, to be able to put your in yourself in the states that you want to here. But this one's just really controlled into Adam meeting, so it's pretty cool.Hala Taha:27:45Yeah. Very cool. So what are your thoughts on nootropics? Supplements designed to improve cognitive function.Peter Jensen:27:52Oh, okay. So we're going to get controversial. Um, I personally love them. I think nootropics are the world's best kept secret. Seriously. Yeah. Um, look coffee sudden nootropic. So green tea. So let's not be so afraid of it. Um, the thing is there are no tropics out there. Like, uh, let's talk about the basic ones. The low end ones like thoracitn is that will improve cognitive function. Mao, sometimes it's difficult to get them. There are some commercial brands out there that are just making a killing out of it and it's, they have nothing. They really have nothing. Most of the commercial brands out there, uh, when I've tested them, they really do very little.But, and this is my favorite one. My favorite one is called cmax in it's, it's Russian actually. And it was patented by the Soviet Union government. It was developed to help cognitive function in and, and to protect, there's a neuro protector for four Cosmin outs for what cost. What else? Okay, so Cosmin is an astronaut, but from Russia. Yeah. Okay. So that's, um, that's, that's what it was designed for. It was designed in the 60s, but now we see that this is one of the only drugs that it has no side effects, but it actually repairs damage from even strokes.Peter Jensen:29:32It repairs the damage. Of course. It's not commercially available a outside of Russia. But in Russia it cost something like the equivalent of 15 to$20 for a whole month. That's my favorite nootropic. Um, I've, I have to protect my neurology because of the brain damage created by my accident and other things that happened afterwards. And I've been experimenting with different things and I've been testing them with help of doctors and I found that this one for me is the best one and it very close to my cognitive functions. It really does.
Hala Taha:30:15So I had assumed that nootropics might pose serious side effects, but actually I was digging deeper and there really aren't any major ones I sawlike insomnia or stomach pain. So you mentioned previously it's the biggest kept secret. Why aren't more people doing this?Peter Jensen:30:35Because they just don't know about it and they don't know about it because there's no commercial effort to do it because there's no business in it. Not really. I mean, yes, the commercial brands who do it, they, they, they catered to to biohackers mostly and to, to millennials who are very interested in biohacking and very interested in, in, in cognitive development. But really the pharmaceutical companies produce them. They really do. They're not expensive, but you need a, you need a prescription for them. You need a prescription for them because usually they're, they're used for things like seizures, but there's a much cheaper than regular neuro protectors that we see in the market. So if you have in your protector that I'm an antiepileptic for example, that might cost, I don't know, 20 30 $40. Sometimes you'll have an nor tropic that costs two or $3, but it does the same thing.Peter Jensen:31:41So where's the business at? That's the, that's the situation. You know, pharmaceutical companies, unfortunate, I don't want to be too controversial, but pharmaceutical companies don't have, clients don't have end users. They have subscribers. Yeah. So the moment you get sick from one thing, you get a medicine, you get some medication and you're going to have to be using this medication forx amount of time is that medication is going to cause a problem. So, oh, we've just upgraded your subscription, you know? Yeah. So bio hackers, we tried to get away from that and we try to take control ourselves. So we usually look at things that will not to damage us.Hala Taha:32:21Yeah. I find this all really fascinating. I was looking up this nootropic called Uridine and it improves memory fights, all timers. Depression relieves pain.It sounds like a miracle, but I noticed that you need to actually consume companion. Nootropic. How'd he say it? Nutro bakes like Omega three. No tropics.But I um, but I noticed that you have to buy companion and no tropics, like Omega three for it
to work. Can you explain what staking is to our listeners?Peter Jensen:32:55Oh god. All right. Um, okay. So what I do for stacking, basically it's this, I make sure that I take something and we'll nootropic for example, in the minimum quantity possible and whatever support mechanism I need for it as well. So I like to make a three split of, make a sentence or better, it's just, just not as commercially available. This would would, it will do is it'll help the nootropic break the blood brain barrier, but it will help protect your neurology swell. So it depends on what nootropic you're, you're using. And then once you have the minimum dose and you'll see it's not affecting you, you double that up until the point where you see that there's a notable results, we can notice it and it's stable, then that's great and you need to see it. There are no side effects to it. This is why we stack it up little by little.Peter Jensen:34:04It's a very important thing. You don't just say, Oh okay, you know what? I need to, I need to study in lots tonight. I'm going to pull an all nighter and I'm just going to fill myself with nootropics. That's not responsible. That's not cool and it's not good for you. Some nootropics like for example press tab and a few others will will drain your hypothalamus, hypothalamus, and so you need something to balance that out because if not, you're just going tofeel very tired and it's really difficult to feel really tired and not be able to sleep at the same time, so don't mess around with it.Hala Taha:34:41Yeah. And I bet there's a lot of documentation because I think there's a lot of people out there really passionate who have already kind of come upwith these concoctions that work. So if you're interested, just do some research on brain hacking and uh, nootropics, no trout, neutral bags, no tropics. Let me say that a bunch of times. So My, uh, editor can do it. NooTropics, nootropics, nootropics. Okay.Peter Jensen:35:07Would you do if you really want him ever? I uh, wellI pronounce the word properly. You separated and syllables and then read the syllables backwards. So you have new tra pics. Pics, Tra Nu, NU tropics.
Hala Taha:35:26Awesome. Thank you. All right, let's spend time on the gut to brain connection. We recently had billionaire Naveen Jane on the show who is the CEO of a company that offers gut health checks and recommend Nate and recommendations on the foods to eat. Can you explain what nutrogenomix are and how your food impacts your brain?Peter Jensen:35:50Okay. So, uh, there's a difference between Nuerogenic and NuetroGenomics. Genomics is basically the nutrients that you give your, your, your, your DNA. And, uh, [inaudible] is uh, what your DNA with the nutrients your DNA requires. So it depends what side you're looking at it from. Now if you're looking at it from in terms of uh, of, of gut health and um, and BrainHealth yes. Is the intestineis actually your second brain. There's a lot of neuro,what do we have a logical connections from our brain tour and testing into our heart as well. So the way I see it, we have three brains. We need to startlearning how to think from there. We need to balance these out. So the gut, we we balanced through eating the right things and maintaining a really good, um, got balance in terms of the right, um, probiotics, the right nutrients, the right fibers, non soluble fibers, the right hydration and so on.Peter Jensen:36:52And there's people out there would say, and I agreewith them, but is that death begins in the gut. Yes, but so does the healing of pretty much every disease. And I'm not to say every single one of them, but pretty much everyone, we can start healing it from the gut. Now if you use them to genomics for this, you are essentially giving the right nutrients to your genetic code to turn on or offan edge genetic expression. That's all it is. It's a switch. It's a binary system and a genetic expression is either on or off. If you, for example, one to rejuvenate, well then you activate the nerve too. If you want your Mitochondria to work better than you activate the nerve one and you do this kinds of things. So of course if you do both the you're sort of balancing it out and it's all about that balance.Peter Jensen:37:43It's still quite new and there are tests that you can have done. And before when I, when I started taking them, they were where I live in Europe. So they were 1,200 Euros, which at the time was like $1,500 and now you can get it for like a hundred or
$200 or something like that. And, uh, I know there'sthe, there's companies in, in the u s and in India who do you who have really great services and they, and you basically just send a saliva sample and they'll have everything for you and it'll tell you things like what you can eat, would you can't eat when you shouldnt indeed when you should eat. And it can tell you also what illnesses you, um, you might get because of your genetic makeup. Yeah.Hala Taha:38:31Yeah. Very cool. So one of the more trending concepts in biohacking is called rewilding and people are calling this the ultimate form of biohacking. And it's all about returning to a more wild or a self willed states and undoing domestication. So can you just explain why people are doing this and what are some examples of rewilding?Peter Jensen:38:55Okay, why we're doing this. So if you prescribed to the theory of evolution, um, we have been in this exact same state for about 250,000 years and it took millions of years to get us there. Do you really think that in the past, sort of like 50, 60, 70 years we've evolved to eat fast food?Hala Taha:39:22No.Peter Jensen:39:23Yeah. Or to eat synthetic molecules. No, I haven't. Not really. So rewilding is, it's awesome because you're basically going back to what your body is. It's meant to be doing, no, it's what it's meant to beeating. Well, how you're meant to take a shower. This is why, or this is why I keep on mentioning Wim Hoff and Tim Vander Fleet because these guysare geniuses of that one. I don't know if you ever heard of the iceman.Hala Taha:39:57No, but I'd love for you to talk about it.Peter Jensen:39:59So this is Wim Hoff and Tim Vander Fleet and um, I love them. And especially Tim Vander Fleet to DM. Him and I, we do a lot of work together. It's all about breathing and cold training. And before we never used to take showers with hot water becausethere was no hot water to take a shower with. So people would just jump in a lake, jump in a river, jumping upon, you know, to wash themselves. And that cold water is fantastic for the body It's great for the skin. It's great for four vessel dilation for
cardiovascular health, for neurological health, for a muscle tonality to activate brown fat. It's really fantastic. So one of the things I like to do is go backto that. So I never take a hot shower or even a warm shower. Even when I'm in Moscow, I don't do it. It just cold water all the time. I swim, I live about,what is it, a hundred yards from the beach. And even in wintertime I'll go out and swim. I'm the onlycrazy guy out there swimming. But I'm out there swimming and I'm enjoying it. And this really is this going back to that wild self that that, um, not just, uh, undomesticated version of us, but that wild freeversion of us that our biology is designed to be.Peter Jensen:41:35No, we're not designed to sit in the couch watching a movie. We're not designed for that. It's nice that we were able to do it, but we're not designed for that. And the more you do that whilst you eat food that you're not designed to eat well, the more trouble you're going to get into. It's as simple as that.Hala Taha:41:53So how about your food? Do you suggest that we eat meat to eat raw foods? Like what's the food look like in this rewilding concept?Peter Jensen:42:04Oh my God. Okay. So for me, I can only speak for me because every single po hacking process, this individual, right? It's, it's all about you and how you find things. For me, this has been the toughest one.I've gone through everything. I've gone from being a raw Vegan, which was probably my favorite stageto um, Paleo to vegetarian to macrobiotics. And I'vejust been, I've been trying to find the best that I can, the best food that I can take to optimize or who I am until I really realized that who I am. Is also, it's also a question of values and principles. Sothat's why I can't really tell you what the best thing is because it depends on your values, your principles, your own biology, your own preferences and what you wanted to achieve. In my case, I usedto love eating meat. Really? I love the taste of it. It's fantastic. Uh, unfortunately it's not the best for my value system. I love the environment. I love it so much. I Love Planet Earth and I'm very aware that we need this planet more than it needs us. So Idon't say I don't eat any meat. I do. I just keep it to,to a bare minimum. And I make sure it's a sustainable as it can possibly be. I don't do it because I might be hurting an animal or something
that had a face. I don't do it for those reasons. And Iknow a lot of people do and that's great. That's fantastic. Do it for those reasons. I do it because weall live in this sphere and I want to take care of it and I want to do my part. My part is only a small part, but I'm not going to refuse to do that, which I can do even if it's only me.Peter Jensen:44:11So for me, it's been a balance. I know I feel great physically if I eat meat. And now here's a shocker. IfI eat raw meat, I feel even better. Wow. And I love it. And I've had it since I was a child and that's probably why I grew up in Mexico and to Texas. But in Mexico, my, my grandparents would give me rawmeat and I would love it. It just put a little lemon onit, a little salt, and that's it. And I would love it. And I still love the taste. So, you know, at that point it was great and it gives me a lot of energy and everything. But being a raw vegan gives me a lot ofenergy as well. And right now I have a, uh, a mix. I know I have to eat proteins and to mostly fat in the mornings, I know I need to keep my lagoons down to a bare minimum. I know that I need to keep in my starches down to a bare minimum. And that's me. So mine is a little more Keto. Uh, but it's a difficult keto because it's a keto almost, almost tending to vegetarian.Peter Jensen:45:16And for other people it's going to be completely Keto for other people is going to be completely paleo. We need to figure it out. And this is up to youand it's up to your value system and it's up to how you want to live and what you want to achieve. I eat for my brain. Yeah. Yeah. For me that's the mostimportant thing. My thoughts become my reality. And so if I take care of my thoughts and my thought processes through anything I ingest, whether it's information or food, then I'm most responsible for what goes in as I am for what goes out.Hala Taha:45:51Awesome. So before we go, we only have a few minutes left. I just want to touch on some of your other key topics. Namely leadership. Um, I just had an episode on leadership featuring the leadership guru, Dov Barron, and um, he mentioned, uh, we talked a lot about purpose and how through purpose people can, um, you know, really shine with their talents and succeed and, you know, gain
a tribe. So can you tell us about your opinion when it comes to purpose and leadership?Peter Jensen:46:26Your purpose is the most important thing is he, a lotof people think that purpose is their ultimate goal. It's not, it's a lifestyle. So you don't want your purpose to have an end date. You don't want it to all of a sudden say, oh, I have achieved my purpose. Uh, because what can we say about a person who's already achieved their purpose? Oh, they're not motivated. It's like, good on you. What should we do now, burry you? You, cause you're already there. Um, yeah. And that's a goal. And it could be a vision or it could be a goal, but the thingis a purpose drives you every day, you know? So my purpose in life is, is now because of course, purpose transforms as you grow, you can't be inflexible. No. Before, when I was 18, my purpose was to have the privilege to touch the hearts and change the lives of all the people I had the honor tomeet. Then after my accident, it was the same. But then I added, uh, and I wished to help. But now my purpose is to help people create legacies. Transgenerational trends. Planetary. I just had a conversation with a young lady who's 18 right now and it's already been trained to go to Morrison 2033and I know that her vision is out of this world, her vision and her purpose, our trends, planetary. And that's what's important. You know, for me, my purpose is to help people create true legacies, which transcend their borders and transcend their generations and even transcend our planet. That's my purpose in life. So anything else? Anything that doesn't fit into my purpose and my value systems, my family system, I reject. I just sort of, nope, that's not for me. No, I'm not going to do that and not going to do that. So I ended up coaching a whole bunch of people who are doing great environmental movements, you know, sometimes, and they don't pay so well, but it doesn't matter because we're building legacies and that's important. You mentioned building a tribe. This is okay, this is cool, but I don't prescribe to that for myself for one particular reason. For me being a leader, whether it's a thought leader or leader of a movement or a leader of a country or leader of a company organization, it's not about me. It's not about the leader. A true leader, a transformational leader doesn't have followers. It transformational leader does not, uh, just lead people. A
transformational leader serves people and that's what's important. And here's the biggest difference.A transformational leader will serve people becausewe know that the most important thing is to lead through empathy and beyond our generation. That's how you create real transformation. And without purpose, you cannot get there and your purpose has to drive you every single day of your life. You wake up knowing that you are going to work to make sure your purpose is filled that day and the next day you're going to do the same. And because 93% of our thoughts are repetitive, we're going to make sure that those thoughts that are purpose driven are going to be repetitive. And that's going to drive a legacy beyond your own name.Hala Taha:50:20That's beautiful. What a great way to close out the show. Thank you so much, Peter. Where can our go to find out more about everything that you do?Peter Jensen:50:30Well, thank you very much. It's been an absolute pleasure and a w you can just go to my website, and everything, there. Um, get also a hit me on linkedin. It's pete Jensen. I'm linkedin and that's the, that's the one I use mostly.Hala Taha:50:51Awesome. And we'll be promoting this episode as usual so you guys will get his contact information there as well. So thanks so much, Peter. It was a pleasure having you.Hala Taha:50:59Thank you very much, Hala. It's really been a pleasure and like I said, I really love your show and I really love your voice. It's so calming, so soothing and always so clear. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right.

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